Crohn's Disease Web Page Updated!!
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Thanks for all your hard work Peter. The Crohn’s Desease Web Page is great. It has helped me a lot. May I reference it on the Web Page for GERD that I am now putting together?
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I am appalled that Ken would even consider slamming the web page that BosPol has taken so much time to make available for those of us suffering from Crohn’s disease. The effort was strictly selfless and I see no area where he has tried to sell anything. It is a site for anyone that has CD to enter and learn. That is one of the best forms of dealing with CD – learning about it. I don’t know what Ken’s problem is. Is it just that he knows that trying to sell something on a support message board is wrong? Does he feel guilty? I’ll bet he does and would never admit it. He is a pompous a–! What BosPol has given us is the nicest thing that could be given. I use his web page daily in looking for more information that I can use to try to understand why I have this horrible disease. THANK YOU BosPol!!!!!!!
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Thanks Larry for your good words. I’m glad you’ve found my Crohn’s page helpful. Have a great day! Peter Crohn’s Disease Web Page http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
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>The truth is not found in an award. Look at the facts, everyone. If you
want to kill >the messenger, the facts will still be there staring you in the face. Trying to >censor the newsgroup tells a lot about the one who has set himself up >as an authority and created the role of censor for himself. There is NO >AUTHORITY. Let each one speak out freely and let the others judge for >themselves. >Ken Presner >www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/sweet/index.html
O.K. I think I speak for many when I say enough already!! This thread has deteriorated from discussion of different Crohn’s web sites to censorship and who knows what else ( I gave up reading the details awhile ago because they sound all alike and posted mostly by one individual) We get your point. Let’s move onto something more related to support, instead of bickering. Jim
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I just visited Peter’s Crohn’s site (http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm) and I’m very impressed with it. I recommend it to anyone interested in Crohn’s or IBD in general. Larry Finch
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->says… >Ahem the previous statement is a wrongful attempt at spite because I drew >attention on this board about Justice Dept investigations into the Zapper >product, that Ken happens to sell. Those that have visited the Crohn’s >Disease Web Page (over 7,000 since January) know there is NO COMMERCIAL >CONTENT (I have no sponsors and profit nothing and sell nothing). The CD >Web Page has been selected as a quality medical site by the Health on the >Net Foundation and recently received the Editor’s Choice Award for quality >content by LookSmart (the Reader’s Digest index/search engine). >I have CD and I put the CD Web Page together after my diagnosis to help >others find the info they need on the Internet in a manageable and >user-friendly form. >If you’ve found my Crohn’s Disease Web Page helpful, I would appreciate >any supportive comments on this board. The CCFA web site doesn’t deserve >Ken’s accusations either. They don’t deserve a bad rap because of one >individual’s attempt to spread untrue and unjust rumors. >Peter >Crohn’s Disease Web Page >http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm >Hmm. very interesting how much BosPol loves to sideswipe the zapper >considering the fact that he has no personal experience with this little >device. But all his words cannot undo all the good that it does. The facts >speak for themselves. So, the motto is don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. >BosPol apparently has not been cured of what ails him by the drugs he touts >for others to take. On the other hand, Ken is totally free of so-called >Crohn’s Disease. So, folks, who speaks with greater authority? The proof of >the pudding is in the eating. My mother, who will be 85 next month and who >is visiting us has told me to add this old adage to my comments. She is >grateful for the results that the zapper has given me and she uses the >zapper herself. As for the claims BosPol makes regarding his webpage, even >if he personally does not make any money from it does not negate the fact >that his webpage is totally commercial. Since when are drug companies not >commercial. They are among the largest and most profitable enterprises on >the planet. So don’t you tell me his webpage is not commercial. Get on >there, inspect all the drug content, and judge for yourselves. Since when is >HOECHST not commercial. They sponsor the CCFA website. That is not an >accusation. That is a fact. They deserve a very bad rap. It is not an untrue >and unjust rumor, but a FACT that HOECHST was one of three companies (the >other 2 are AGF and BAYER) that were created after the break-up of I.G. >FARBEN. The same NAZIS who managed FARBEN took over the management of >HOECHST. BosPol should get his facts straight. I do not deal in rumors but >in FACTS.
Oh yes. I forgot to mention. I am the same person who has overcome Multiple Sclerosis. I was bedridden 7 years ago and now I work from morning to late at night and work out at the gym. It was not by contrivance, trickery, deceit or miracle cure that I accomplished. It was 7 years of blood, sweat, tears, detoxification and very hard work. For those who are not faint-hearted, check out my webpage and ignore all commercial aspects of it i.e the zapper, which has helped me and many others in its unapproved way. After all, if we wait for approval for everything we do to improve our health, we may be dead and buried. Think for yourselves, do for yourselves. And BEWARE of those who encourage you to take drugs. CAVEAT EMPTOR. And don’t worry about all this talk about the Justice Department. The Justice Department is trying to put Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski for curing cancer. The FDA ADMITS he cures cancer with antineoplaston therapy but they are so mad that he has embarrassed the FDA that they want to nail him on interstate commerce laws, because some os his patients have come from out of state to receive his treatments. Insane or what? So don’t let the fear-mongers get to you. Small minds. Ken Presner www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/sweet/index.html
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The sad fact is that you won’t find the truth on the CD Webpage. You’ll find an approved page alright. But approved will not lead you to the truth. Approved is like the Academy Awards. So What! There are a lot of lousy movies that have received Academy Awards. Same goes for webpages. CAVEAT EMPTOR. Ken Presner www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/sweet/index.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Ahem, the previous statement is a wrongful attempt at spite because I drew >attention on this board about Justice Dept investigations into the Zapper >product, that Ken happens to sell. Those that have visited the Crohn’s >Disease Web Page (over 7,000 since January) know there is NO COMMERCIAL >CONTENT (I have no sponsors and profit nothing and sell nothing). The CD >Web Page has been selected as a quality medical site by the Health on the >Net Foundation and recently received the Editor’s Choice Award for quality >content by LookSmart (the Reader’s Digest index/search engine). >I have CD and I put the CD Web Page together after my diagnosis to help >others find the info they need on the Internet in a manageable and >user-friendly form. >If you’ve found my Crohn’s Disease Web Page helpful, I would appreciate >any supportive comments on this board. The CCFA web site doesn’t deserve >Ken’s accusations either. They don’t deserve a bad rap because of one >individual’s attempt to spread untrue and unjust rumors. >Peter >Crohn’s Disease Web Page >http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
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Thanks Ken for enlightening us all about the Zapper that you sell. Even if I weren’t opposed to the Zapper itself, I would still be opposed to you selling wares on the bulletin board. Now please, sit down and let others in the class talk for awhile. Thank you. Peter
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yada yada yada >http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
I just wanted to say that: 1) you both sound like a couple of kindergardeners bickering over a toy truck and 2)I found the BosPol website much more informative than the CCFA website. So much so that I replaced the link to CCFA on my webpage with a link to the BosPol site. Evan — http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/e/eokane/public/home.html
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You are right Evan about your comments and my responses on this board. I will do better to restrain myself when attacks are made against my Crohn’s page, and keep personal responses to email or to myself. Also I’m glad that you found my Crohn’s Disease web page helpful. From the responses thus far, it seems to have met a definite need. Peter Crohn’s Disease Web Page http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
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>Thanks Ken for enlightening us all about the Zapper that you sell. Even >if I weren’t opposed to the Zapper itself, I would still be opposed to you >selling wares on the bulletin board. Now please, sit down and let others >in the class talk for awhile. Thank you. >Peter
From his latest response it appears that BosPol has cast himself in the role of school teacher who patronizes when he doesn’t like what he hears. BosPol does not own the Internet airwaves. Freedom of speech is still in effect, unless I got the American constitution all wrong. He would like to silence me by keeping our dialog on email. That’s too easy. Let everyone see what is going on. He refuses to even address my factual criticism about drugs on his website and HOESCHT. He prefers to malign the messenger than to address the question and to camouflage it all with all the talk about an award. The truth is not found in an award. Look at the facts, everyone. If you want to kill the messenger, the facts will still be there staring you in the face. Trying to censor the newsgroup tells a lot about the one who has set himself up as an authority and created the role of censor for himself. There is NO AUTHORITY. Let each one speak out freely and let the others judge for themselves. Ken Presner www,intergate.bc.ca/personal/sweet/index.html
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says… Ahem the previous statement is a wrongful attempt at spite because I drew – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->attention on this board about Justice Dept investigations into the Zapper >product, that Ken happens to sell. Those that have visited the Crohn’s >Disease Web Page (over 7,000 since January) know there is NO COMMERCIAL >CONTENT (I have no sponsors and profit nothing and sell nothing). The CD >Web Page has been selected as a quality medical site by the Health on the >Net Foundation and recently received the Editor’s Choice Award for quality >content by LookSmart (the Reader’s Digest index/search engine). >I have CD and I put the CD Web Page together after my diagnosis to help >others find the info they need on the Internet in a manageable and >user-friendly form. >If you’ve found my Crohn’s Disease Web Page helpful, I would appreciate >any supportive comments on this board. The CCFA web site doesn’t deserve >Ken’s accusations either. They don’t deserve a bad rap because of one >individual’s attempt to spread untrue and unjust rumors. >Peter >Crohn’s Disease Web Page >http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
Hmm. very interesting how much BosPol loves to sideswipe the zapper considering the fact that he has no personal experience with this little device. But all his words cannot undo all the good that it does. The facts speak for themselves. So, the motto is don’t knock it until you’ve tried it. BosPol apparently has not been cured of what ails him by the drugs he touts for others to take. On the other hand, Ken is totally free of so-called Crohn’s Disease. So, folks, who speaks with greater authority? The proof of the pudding is in the eating. My mother, who will be 85 next month and who is visiting us has told me to add this old adage to my comments. She is grateful for the results that the zapper has given me and she uses the zapper herself. As for the claims BosPol makes regarding his webpage, even if he personally does not make any money from it does not negate the fact that his webpage is totally commercial. Since when are drug companies not commercial. They are among the largest and most profitable enterprises on the planet. So don’t you tell me his webpage is not commercial. Get on there, inspect all the drug content, and judge for yourselves. Since when is HOECHST not commercial. They sponsor the CCFA website. That is not an accusation. That is a fact. They deserve a very bad rap. It is not an untrue and unjust rumor, but a FACT that HOECHST was one of three companies (the other 2 are AGF and BAYER) that were created after the break-up of I.G. FARBEN. The same NAZIS who managed FARBEN took over the management of HOECHST. BosPol should get his facts straight. I do not deal in rumors but in FACTS.
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I don’t know what that posted is all about saying the Crohn’s Disease web page is commercial or mixed up with drug companies. Not true. I was recently diagnosed and found it very helpful in my search for info. Thanks Peter for all the hard work you’ve put into it. Jim >WARNING: For those of you who think they are going to visit a >non-commercial site BEWARE! This site is HIGHLY COMMERCIAL and features >drug companies and their commercial products. The CCFA website is >sponsored by HOECHST, the huge German drug company that was part of >I.G. Farben which created ZYKLON-B gas that was used in the gas >chambers. This entire website is linked with drug companies and drug >products.
>Just a notice to those with CD/IBD, my Crohn’s Disease Web Page has >undergone some significant changes and revisions, including the >addition of a new information section on Crohn’s, new descriptive links to >Crohn’s related sites, an updated Crohn’s/IBD book list, and new search >engines to help you search the web. As always, my site is
non-commercial. It – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->was also recently certified by the Health on the Net Foundation as a >quality medical information resource. Visit today and let me know if you like >what you see. Comments/feedback/questions/suggestions welcome! — >Peter >Crohn’s Disease Web Page >http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
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Just a notice to those with CD/IBD, my Crohn’s Disease Web Page has undergone some significant changes and revisions, including the addition of a new information section on Crohn’s, new descriptive links to Crohn’s related sites, an updated Crohn’s/IBD book list, and new search engines to help you search the web. As always, my site is non-commercial. It was also recently certified by the Health on the Net Foundation as a quality medical information resource. Visit today and let me know if you like what you see. Comments/feedback/questions/suggestions welcome! — Peter Crohn’s Disease Web Page http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
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WARNING: For those of you who think they are going to visit a non-commercial site BEWARE! This site is HIGHLY COMMERCIAL and features drug companies and their commercial products. The CCFA website is sponsored by HOECHST, the huge German drug company that was part of I.G. Farben which created ZYKLON-B gas that was used in the gas chambers. This entire website is linked with drug companies and drug products. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Just a notice to those with CD/IBD, my Crohn’s Disease Web Page has >undergone some significant changes and revisions, including the addition >of a new information section on Crohn’s, new descriptive links to Crohn’s >related sites, an updated Crohn’s/IBD book list, and new search engines to >help you search the web. As always, my site is non-commercial. It was >also recently certified by the Health on the Net Foundation as a quality >medical information resource. Visit today and let me know if you like >what you see. Comments/feedback/questions/suggestions welcome! — Peter >Crohn’s Disease Web Page >http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
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>>WARNING: For those of you who think they are going to visit a >non-commercial site BEWARE! This site is HIGHLY COMMERCIAL and >features drug companies and their commercial products. The CCFA website is >sponsored by HOECHST, the huge German drug company that was part of >I.G. Farben which created ZYKLON-B gas that was used in the gas >chambers. This entire website is linked with drug companies and drug >products
Ahem, the previous statement is a wrongful attempt at spite because I drew attention on this board about Justice Dept investigations into the Zapper product, that Ken happens to sell. Those that have visited the Crohn’s Disease Web Page (over 7,000 since January) know there is NO COMMERCIAL CONTENT (I have no sponsors and profit nothing and sell nothing). The CD Web Page has been selected as a quality medical site by the Health on the Net Foundation and recently received the Editor’s Choice Award for quality content by LookSmart (the Reader’s Digest index/search engine). I have CD and I put the CD Web Page together after my diagnosis to help others find the info they need on the Internet in a manageable and user-friendly form. If you’ve found my Crohn’s Disease Web Page helpful, I would appreciate any supportive comments on this board. The CCFA web site doesn’t deserve Ken’s accusations either. They don’t deserve a bad rap because of one individual’s attempt to spread untrue and unjust rumors. Peter Crohn’s Disease Web Page http://members.aol.com/bospol/homepage/crohns.htm
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